Cessation of Spiritual Gifts?

How far this study goes beyond scratching the surface is greatly dependent on the interest of the visiting readers. We’ll begin by sharing this morning’s sermon (April 28th, 2019) as given by Pastor Guest at Shiloh Baptist Church, Danielsville, Georgia.

As Brother Glenn made clear there are two opposing views as to whether or not the gifts of the Spirit are in operation today. What follows is not to confuse anyone but to clearly testify to what was said in the sermon above is in fact, true–that there is a view being taught by many who says that the gifts were done away with when God’s Word, the Bible, was completed (96 AD). Here is what a well known Bible teacher/scholar/theologian has to say:

So, which is it? The following video goes into much more detail into explaining the view of cessationists:

After listening to this Strange Fire Question and Answer Session, it seems that along with throwing the baby out with the bathwater–an old English proverb, these panelists have clearly shown what their conclusion is: Cessation of tongues, prophecy, knowledge and other gifts of the Spirit.

The video clips that were shown in the Strange Fire Pane Question and Answer, Session 1 video above is, no doubt, a no-brainer for any true, born-again, non-deceived Christian to be able to quickly see as false and not of God. So, who is telling the truth in the next two videos, Dan Mohler or the cessationist?

Do you have any thoughts, questions or comments?

An Easy Gospel Begets Easy Disciples

“Church” is simply that which Jesus is building upon the foundation of Himself. It consists of those to whom God has chosen to reveal His Son. This revelation of who we are in Christ and who Christ is in us is the key. Without this firm foundation we cannot know, understand or experience being part of the Church. Our religious head knowledge is of virtually no significance, or the repeating of the so-called “Sinner’s Prayer” means nothing apart from the revelation of Jesus Christ. The Church is not built upon the individual Peter, but upon those to whom God has revealed Himself through the Holy Spirit. … Those structures not built upon the Foundation of Jesus Christ will fall of their own accord (I Corinthians 3:12-17; Matthew 7:24-27).”

The title to this post and the paragraph above came from comments left on the Kjos Ministries website in response to this article and other articles.

Before I go any further, there are some of us who realizes that we are out-of-step with current thinking. I said “us” because I know (because of reactions pertaining to the content found on this site and the Paradigm Control site–ignoring and the silent treatment are reactions) I’m seen as one who is a “solipsistic” (selfish) individual–because of my “being so self-absorbed that I will not go along with the flow” of today’s beliefs. Regardless, silence on issues, subjects, topics and or matters as found on the Kjos Ministries website, by those who identify themselves as Christians, is a result of easy believism or the result of being deceived with an “easy gospel”.

The purpose of this post is to encourage the few who are true born-again believers on Jesus Christ, to not be confounded when so many of the other (so called) believers do not, and cannot, recognize and respond to the One who lives in you. Those who’ve built their house “upon the foundation of Jesus Christ”, you will know and those who haven’t  “will fall of their own accord”–if they haven’t already–and this you should know as well.

“We cannot know one another according to the flesh and find contentment. We cannot properly discern the Body until we establish communion with its Head. Life is given and received as we stand with one another in relationship to Christ.” (This is a link to the same “comment” page as linked to above.)

More to come…..

Preaching With Backbone

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. -Hosea 4:6 – KJV Bible

Christianity’s comfortable co-existence with the spirit of this age is a result of church leadership failing God’s plan.

The word “knowledge”, as used in the verse above, is defined as follows:

Strong’s H1847 – דַּעַת
da‛ath (pronounced dah’-ath)
From H3045; knowledge: – cunning, [ig-] norantly, know(-ledge), [un-] awares (wittingly).

Strong’s H3045 – יָדַע
yâda‛ (pronounced yaw-dah’)
A primitive root; to know (properly to ascertain by seeing); used in a great variety of senses, figuratively, literally, euphemistically and inferentially (including observation, care, recognition; and causatively instruction, designation, punishment, etc.): – acknowledge, acquaintance (-ted with), advise, answer, appoint, assuredly, be aware, [un-] awares, can [-not], certainly, for a certainty, comprehend, consider, X could they, cunning, declare, be diligent, (can, cause to) discern, discover, endued with, familiar friend, famous, feel, can have, be [ig-] norant, instruct, kinsfolk, kinsman, (cause to, let, make) know, (come to give, have, take) knowledge, have [knowledge], (be, make, make to be, make self) known, + be learned, + lie by man, mark, perceive, privy to, X prognosticator, regard, have respect, skilful, shew, can (man of) skill, be sure, of a surety, teach, (can) tell, understand, have [understanding], X will be, wist, wit, wot.

Therefore (or, the definition is there/here for a reason), if one happens to be unaware of a danger it is because of the will–the will to choose between knowing and not knowing.

Experience has taught some “believers” that knowledge, concerning the heart and origin of any given deception perpetrated upon us all, is rejected by most. Why is it that the warning, “(B)ecause thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” is almost never considered or mentioned from behind the pulpit? Is there a need for some examples of things we should know and understand? Closely listen to the sermons on this page and see for yourself, by rejecting knowledge or receiving it, if you are truly one of His, a true born-again believer of Jesus Christ, our only Savior.

The following video is suppose to be a critique or proofs that the video, “What Must I Do To Be Saved?” is full of false teaching. The video (below) is provided by KJV1611, who I use for scripture references when hovering (with your mouse pointer) over a scripture reference on this site (I also have a KJV1611 video on this site’s homepage). As you would know, if you’ve read this site well enough, there are things that both of these men teach that I disagree with but if I chose not to think of these as brethren in Christ because of disagreements and they were to do the same with me, then we would all be isolated from one another. I don’t “know” everything and neither do you. How can we ever come together in Christ Jesus if we accuse our brothers as being false believers. Now, having said that, there are such ones to not have fellowship with. It is up to each of us to “know” who they are.

May God continue to bless us with knowing and desiring the truth.

Stand Fast In The Lord, My Dearly Beloved

“Stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved” is a statement right out of the Bible–Philippians 4:1b. The complete verse says, “Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.” The word “therefore” was said because what was just previously said was said for a reason and the reason is the content of chapter four. But first, what was previously said, in chapter three is this:

Verse 1: Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2: Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3: For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4: Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5: Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6: Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7: But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8: Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9: And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11: If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
12: Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13: Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14: I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
15: Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16: Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
17: Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
18: (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20: For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Now, chapter four:

1: Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.
(See that what follows is exhortation, encouragement, and prayer.)
2: I beseech Euodias, and beseech Syntyche, that they be of the same mind in the Lord.
3: And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
4: Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.
5: Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
6: Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
7:  And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.                                                   8:  Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
9: Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
10: But I rejoiced in the Lord greatly, that now at the last your care of me hath flourished again; wherein ye were also careful, but ye lacked opportunity.
11: Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
12: I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
13: I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
14: Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
15: Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
16: For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.
17: Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
18: But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
19: But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
20: Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
21: Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you.
22: All the saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar’s household.
23: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Stand fast IN THE LORD, by continuing in the Word, is an exhortation for those who believe on Jesus Christ:

John 8:31, 32 says, “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

True peace, which is of Christ Jesus, comes from our loving obedience–continuing in knowing God through His word.

Otherwise, false peace, vainly represented with a “put-on” peace, and a false understanding (presented as truth and excuses) is what is witnessed and never yields any fruit. Such so-called “Christians” are known by their unforgiving selfishness and are branches in danger of being cut off.

If we love Him, we will obey Him. Christ Jesus is the true light. In Him there is no darkness.

Stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved!